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					<title><![CDATA[Dealing with Online Advertisers]]></title>
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					<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
					<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>

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						<p><a href="http://www.davestravelcorner.com/wp-blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/advertising.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" src="http://www.davestravelcorner.com/wp-blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/advertising.jpg" alt="gleneagles" width="424" height="283" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-22405" /></a> We have been working with online advertisers for quite a few years, benefiting from putting this site online back in the mid 1990&#8217;s. We have worked with many excellent advertisers over the years and have created custom solutions for a number of them. When you have an above board advertiser who knows what they want, it is an absolute pleasure to work with them.</p>
<p>However, there are so many requests that pollute the waters so to speak &#8211; we try to respond to all advertising requests &#8211; giving people the benefit of the doubt &#8211; and perhaps we need to draw the line at a higher standard than the lowest standard that approaches us.</p>
<p>Here is what we often go through when dealing with a number of new advertising requests.</p>
<p><span class="s4"><strong>Pre Advertising </strong></span><br />
1. They want us to write the content first and try to pay later &#8211; and then never pay</p>
<p>2. Want us to post the piece first then never pay</p>
<p>After getting burned on exceptions we now no longer make ANY exceptions to this rule.</p>
<p>3. The advertiser who keeps giving us miscellaneous contracts to sign &#8211; pro-longing things, coming up with multiple agreements. We&#8217;ve seen a few of these come from India based advertisers for whatever reason. This is a fun one.</p>
<p>4. Odd ball requests &#8211; I will work with custom requests &#8211; but often we get requests to remove other paying ads and then post theirs. Often their offered price is incredibly low.</p>
<p>5. We get a number of requests like this: &#8220;here is our offer to give you free content to help build traffic to your site &#8211; the content is often poor English and there is *always* an agenda of placing 1 or more links within the piece to for profit websites.</p>
<p>6. We get a fair amount of small change requests &#8211; usually with budgets that really stretch it to reach $50 one time. These particular advertisers are intent on bargaining down to the $1 range.</p>
<p>7. The page ranker. They are only interested in Google Page rank and no other analytics. They work off of a formula they&#8217;ve been given &#8211; so they can only offer you one price based on what ever your page&#8217;s particular page rank is. There is no room to work with their set pricing.</p>
<p>It is always amazing to me how $10 to $20 difference in one time offers make all the difference in the world to these particular advertisers. As in offering $10 or $20 less one time (one off) is a make or break to them for their budget.</p>
<p>8. The no follow linkers. These requests (and we&#8217;ve had a few but not too many yet) are only interested in their link being the &#8220;follow&#8221; link on a page and won&#8217;t spend a dime until all links on a particular page are set to &#8220;no follow&#8221;. They are dead set on that and don&#8217;t seem to have interests in other analytics.</p>
<p>9. The advertiser that doesn&#8217;t get it the first time. We give prices and then they circle around and ask for free advertising after we have provided a list of our rates. Often times after asking again, they will then ask multiple times even after we&#8217;ve mentioned we don&#8217;t have free advertising or can&#8217;t give them whatever low ball price they are trying to reach!</p>
<p>10. We are starting to get &#8220;bulk pricing&#8221; requests now for guest posts and other advertising &#8211; which means we agree on a lower price for say 3 posts a month or more. One post is then submitted and paid for at the much reduced lower price. We never hear from these individuals again and we&#8217;ve just given a much reduced price for one guest post. We need to figure out how we will deal with this &#8211; but we are now aware of this latest &#8220;scheme&#8221;.</p>
<p>11. Domain Authority &#8211; we&#8217;ve started to get a few of these requests. They only offer a certain price based on MOZ domain authority and aren&#8217;t interested in anything else as it relates to the site and advertising.</p>
<p>12. The &#8220;violation of Google webmaster guidelines&#8221; &#8211; they want to submit one or more commercial links in their post but do not want to pay for it. They reference Google as being the entity that controls a free market economy.</p>
<p>13. The &#8220;no traffic folks&#8221;. From time to time we get requests after we have emailed them our pricing that say something like &#8220;but your site has no traffic&#8221; and they reference a flat line graph in their email showing close to zero visitors per month &#8211; usually from some obscure SEO software &#8211; and then because of this reference, they then ask for free or extremely cheap advertising.</p>
<p>14. The &#8220;sneaky guest post requests&#8221; &#8211; we are inundated with those who try to pretend to be non commercial entities &#8211; offering to make our site so much richer for a quality post they have spent hours writing &#8211; we are &#8220;so lucky&#8221; to be the recipient of their good work. There are different degrees of how sneaky they can be &#8211; we send them our very specific guidelines on guest posting vs advertising posts &#8211; and then they ignore them all, setup an account and add their post. Thats the quickest ticket to the &#8220;delete&#8221; button. Some write personal emails but then they forgot to send from a personal email &#8211; rather its being sent from some seo site. </p>
<p>15. The celebrity name request. We receive inquires from celebrity names, George Lucas, Angelina Jolie to name just a few that we have received recently. These senders focus on their name in the email, often mentioning &#8220;their&#8221; full name several times just in case we don&#8217;t catch on that a famous person is writing us asking for advertising.</p>
<p>16. We get a fair amount of requests from either uneducated people, English is not a first language &#8211; or those with really unethical intentions who try to pretend to ask for something and then try to sneak in other requests.</p>
<p>A number of these requests end up in my spam folder &#8211; I guess there is a reason for that!</p>
<p><span class="s4"><strong>Post Advertising </strong></span><br />
1. Had to mention this one as this has never happened before. A long time advertiser got pissed off because after nearly a month of them being overdue, we removed their links from the site -this was after billing them via PayPal (like we normally do) and emailing our contact. Nearly a month grace period and you get pissed off because you have not responded to our invoices, or email and you had even extra time given. Wow! Enough said.</p>
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